asking Al Gore to run in 2008!
Newt Gingrich
Posted March 9th, 2007 by El Burro Loco
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/08/gingrich.affair.ap/index.html
Newt Gingrich has admitted to having an extramarital affair during his second of three marriages while House republicans were investigating the relationship between Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky.
There is only one reason for Newt to make this public acknowledgement. He wants to be president. He's going to float the story now, let it die and then start campaigning afterwards. He's only admitting it now because he knows the media will find out about it if he runs. This way, he can control the story.
There is no end to the hostility I bear towards this man. If he runs, I feel that he will win the nomination. Let's get ready.
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Newts normally come out on wet, ugly nights to eat worms
Hello Loco,
I am curious what attributes you think that Newt has, which would pull the Republican party to him?
I think it's quite interesting that the Conservative ranks cannot find a candidate that represents what they stand for.
Maybe it's just me, but I think it is indicitive of the movement. Also the preoccupation with everyone else being a hypocrite. I think that they are figment of their own imaginations, projecting their own failures on a country of people who have ceased to believe the fairy tales of Conservatism.
She turned me into a Newt
I got better.
I won't publicly list the things I think Newt can do for the republican party. If you like, we can have that conversation privately.
He's a dinosaur courting courting cavemen
I think going for Newt is the classic desperation play.
I don't want a list of things he can do, but I think they are bankrupt. I have heard plenty of people sing his praises, but honestly, he's not THAT smart, he's got NO fresh ideas (except maybe screwing with the First Amendment), he' s been all but out of the game for years... He's a dinosaur, and the there are more "Big-foots" than there are authentic Conservative candidates who walk their own walk, and talk their own talk.
They want to call Gore a hypocrite for flying on airplanes... Yet, look at the "Family values" party.
Having an affair... Didn't he ask his first wife for a divorce while she was in a hospital bed recovering from a coma or something?
It was cancer, not a coma.
I agree with your comments. Look at the "family values" party now. If Newt got into the race, the top three republican candidates would all be divorced adulterers. How many divorces would that be between them? Five?
Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with divorce. I just don't know how republicans can express the importance of saving marriage from those "godless homosexuals" like John Edwards when they can't even make their own marriages work. Hypocricy.
Cancer, right.
It's silly. The conservatives are coming out of the 06 elections looking absolutely punch-drunk. They want everyone to know that, even though they took a nasty drubbing, the country is still trending conservative.
As to having a problem with divorce, it is difficult for me to concieve of a "Traditional marriage" based on "Christian values," which DOESN'T have a problem with divorce. I mean... C'mon. What are the vows?
I have to give the Clintons more credit than the whole Republican slate. They have marriage problems, but they didn't just give up. For better or worse, ya' know?
Far as I am concerned, the Republican family values are the same as any Republican Value... the only thing with value is money and vote blocks.
I disagree with the idea
I disagree with the idea that the US is trending conservative. I think in many areas this is increasingly untrue. Other than the Plain States and the South, many areas are increasingly happy to consider the Democrats as an alternative to the Bush administration, and I believe that even in the South, qurestions are begining to be raised about the value of backing conservatives based only on there social agenda. I think of the situation currently as similar to the US in the late 60s when the liberal assumptions that underpinned the New Deal came under scrutiny for the first time.
And its interesting that Gingrich divorced his (second) wife to marry his mistress, whilst the Clinton's stuck it out and worked through there issues. Giuliani is another divorcee with hopes of a GOP nomination for President. Which party is it that values marriage? Which party puts the institution of marriage under pressure? Its time to take on the GOP hypocrites on these social issues.
Family Values
Right, let's remind ourselves of real family values, as in the kind that one lives by.
Al Gore met Tippper, fell in love and got married didn't get divorced , they wanted a family and now they are grandparents. Honesty,Integrity, Hard Work and Love & Charity are all family values.
It's one thing to talk it's quite another thing to actually live what you preach.
Al Gore does both.
Well said, even with the
Well said, even with the clintons and going through what they did in the public eye hillary has done an excellent job of sticking through the tough times and being with bill through it all. Who knows if they sought marital help but regardless it shows that shes a strong woman. And gore is a perfect example of someone with strong family values.
Lifestyle choices
You are absolutely on target. Of course, you can't factor out the "Lifestyle choices."
Let's not forget that the Republican Party waged it's war against Homosexuality and liberalism in response to the eroding fabric of American families. The whole thing was based on protecting people who FELT that the way others were living, was destroying THEIR way of life. Ruining THEIR families, THEIR values... Looking back, it almost looks like, once again, they never identified the enemy correctly (considering that their control has focused on destroying everyone ELSE'S families). They just took pot shots at those things which were different, and satisfied themselves with setting about destroying libralism and every institution which they saw as "liberal"... From our public schools and the urban communities which used to rely on them, to our higher education models... Everything was "defunded" and "privatized," even a large portion of our military, in order to "Build paralell institutions" within the private sector, like charter schools and think tanks. Anything to destroy the way of life that "Liberals" thought of as American, to destroy the "entitlement mentality" of wellfare mothers, the "Ivory Tower libralism" handed down from our tenured "Scientists." Anything to destroy "Big government" (that's conservative for "blame America first).
This whole thing, since Reagan, about these Republican Values have led to their own self-extinction. Continually fighting culture wars against people who just want them to leave us alone. Always declaring that we are declaring war on them, without even knowing what we are doing... Like we are at war against the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus, while people like Dobson are locked in combat with the Teletubbie who carries a purple handbag (and he can't even win that).
And here they are... Everyone in the world is sick of them. Instead of listening to what "Liberals" in intelligence told them about Bin Laden using planes to attack, they ignored it and focused on their complete decimation of domestic opposition and dissent. Then blamed it on Clinton. Instead of listening to "liberals" about Katrina, we watched as Grover Norquist's bath tub of weak federal government filled in New Orleans. Then blamed it on stupid poor people. Instead of focusing on Bin Laden, they dragged us into a Holy War and an empirical occupation. Instead of listening to liberals about AGW, they waged a war on Gore, the scientific community and anyone who said something bad about the oil industry. Instead of listening to liberals, they decided to initiate wire-taps and all manner of spying on their own people. They controlled the executive, the legislative and judicial... And they have presided over what will likely be known as the most corrupted government in our history.
Here are your conservative candidates...
Family values...
Ha!
They are their own worst enemies... Look at Gore and Edwards and Barack and even Hillary and Bill. All of them have better track records on defending family values than the Republican ticket.
The Republican values are bankrupt and empty, and it's because of the people they pick to champion them, not the people who their champions are always scapegoating.
WOW... That felt kinda'... LIBERATING...
;)
It's called purging
Like an act of cleansing. Good post. It amazes me that the conservatives stand there holier than thou while throwing stones and then wind up admitting to the same crime they were throwing the stones about except now they feel entitled to the thrown for being honest about it. Like, we could have avoided all that crap in the middle. It's a little bit of the theme of have read here lately including my own that we are not perfect. All the juicy tidbits of gossip are there really to distract from the root issues. The repugs don't have much of a line up right now so who knows. In this media arena I cannot imagine that all the divorces this bunch will be sharing could not be an issue.
Works like Hermes "Jerked Prunes" (Futurama ref.)
I have a theory about healthy marriages requiring healthy economies, and strong support networks. I think you'll find that most marriages site finances and time among the top reasons for divorce. Unlike the wealthy, many marriages are destroyed by a lack of quality time spent as a family unit... Because both spouses are working, and adding a child to that mixture is like encouraging birds to lay eggs, then build nests around them, as they take turns balancing the eggs on bare branches.
Hence, the destruction of the middle-class can take far more credit for the erosion of the family unit and the traditional marriage, than anything else. We used to say, you keep the morals that you can afford... And it hasn't been the Homosexuals laughing to the bank on the difference, it's the corporations that continually pad profits with cutting overhead.
Families
I think we have placed so many things above the importance of family. That's why we have taken our Earth for granted too. I am concerned about the next generation that have all been raised in day care centers. We say child rearing is important, but a mother is worth nothing. Her labor of love construed to meaningless if she says "I am a stay at home mom." As if it were a worthless position. It's all about what you can get, you know, the bigger house ,bigger car, more stuff. And based on the above posts, more women and more sex. Bigger is better. It's really pretty warped thinking and we are constantly being barraged with it by the media. That's why I am hoping for an emphasis on the enviroment. I think it can bring us back to our roots and what is really important in life.
Day "Care?"
Today while having a very enlightening conversation with a very intelligent person I had just met, he referred to the "Day Care" centers as "Day Orphanages".
I have to agree with that terminology as being much more accurate in the description of those institutions of nuclear family destruction.
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