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Joe the plumber logic
Posted October 16th, 2008 by BLACK CELL
Joe the plumber lives in the middle class. He earns a middle class wage. But, Joe the plumbers wants the tax cuts to go to the rich over the middle class becuase he aspires to be rich one day.
Our plumber friend seems to believe that two birds in the Bu$h is worth more than the one bird in his hand.
Joe the plumber's logic is proof that conservatism is an emotional cult.
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Carl Lindner
Look who John McCain is palling around with!
By Michael Lang on Jul 3, 2008 in Featured
Carl H. Lindner Jr., the co-host of a recent top-dollar fundraiser for Sen. oversaw the payment of roughly $1.7 million to a Colombian paramilitary group that is today designated a terrorist organization by the United States.
United Self-Defense Forces of ColombiaThe Cincinnati billionaire businessman, was CEO of Chiquita Brands International from 1984 to 2001, and remained on the company’s board of directors until May 2002. Beginning under his tenure, Chiquita executives paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (known by the Spanish acronym AUC), which is described by George Washington University’s National Security Archive as an "illegal right-wing anti-guerrilla group tied to many of the country’s most notorious civilian massacres."
Following a Justice Department indictment last year, Chiquita admitted to illegally funding the paramilitaries and agreed to pay a $25 million fine. Chiquita’s payments to the AUC began in 1997 and lasted seven years; roughly half of the funds came after the group was designated a Foreign Terrorist Organization by the U.S. State Department in 2001.
According to the Justice Department, the payments "were reviewed and approved by senior executives" of Chiquita, who knew by no later than September 2000 "that the AUC was a violent, paramilitary organization."
Late last week, Lindner co-hosted a $25,000-per-person fundraiser for McCain and the Republican Party in the wealthy Indian Hills neighborhood of Cincinnati, Ohio. The event raised about $2 million; Lindner also serves on McCain’s Ohio Victory Team.
While Lindner was CEO of Chiquita, the company began sending money to the AUC through its shipping subsidiary Banadex. A report by the Organization of American States states that Banadex also engaged in arms trafficking, helping to deliver 3,000 Nicaraguan AK-47 rifles and millions of rounds of ammunition to the AUC in 2001. According to federal prosecutors, when company officials realized the arrangement was illegal, they switched to making the payments in cash.
"We believe they saved people’s lives," a Chiquita spokesman told Time magazine last year, alleging that the company was simply trying to avoid violence against their employees.
Chiquita’s funding of violent paramilitaries does not end with the right-wing AUC. The fruit giant "had been making similar payments to the leftist farc flagFARC and ELN guerrillas" since 1989, also on Lindner’s watch. Those payments ended in 1997 as "control of the company’s banana-growing area shifted" to the AUC, according to the Associated Press.
McCain, who is currently visiting Colombia to promote free trade, has described FARC as "one of the worst" terrorist groups and accused his opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, of being unwilling to support Colombian President Uribe’s anti-terrorist efforts.
That the Arizona Republican is raising funds from a man whose company once paid that very same terrorist group seems likely to sully his charge.
FARC COMMANDER RAUL REYESAides to the Senator did not return request for comment, though they have repeatedly argued that the campaign does not have direct connections to companies represented by such fundraisers or advisers and, as such, should not be held accountable for their actions or presumed to be persuaded by their interests.
However, in the past, McCain has done favors on Lindner’s behalf. Last May, the Washington Post reported that in the late 1990s, McCain "promoted a deal in Arizona’s Tonto National Forest involving property part-owned by Great American Life Insurance, a company run by billionaire Carl H. Lindner Jr., a prolific contributor to national political parties and presidential candidates."
Moreover, McCain’s chief political adviser, Charlie Black, lobbied for Chiquita on two separate occasions in 2001. According to records, Black was paid $80,000 to work on foreign trade issues.
Black, as the Huffington Post reported on Tuesday, has represented other controversial clients with operations in Colombia. From 2001 through 2007, his work brought his firm more than $1.6 million in lobbying fees from Occidental Petroleum, a company whose security arm was accused of bombing a Colombian village and killing 17 civilians in 1998.
Joseph A. Palermo: John McCain and "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" - John McCain has happily accepted large campaign contributions from the following Swifboaters: Bob Perry, T. Boone Pickens, Carl Linder Sr., Harlan Crow, Jack E. Caveney, Albert Huddleston, and Sam Fox. He has even recently added the …
McCain Backer’s Firm Pleaded Guilty To Funding Terrorist Group In … - McCain Backer’s Firm Pleaded Guilty To Funding Terrorist Group In Colombia (Poster’s Note: Linder, Wright, "Rev" FaraCON, Rev. Wright of the BLM movement and Ayers of the Weather Underground. Have these men no shame? …
BANANA REPUBLICANS &hearts CHI-COMS AND TERROR GUYS - … Force study of Chinese Communist techniques used during the Korean War to obtain confessions, many of them false, from American prisoners… [*]. I think it is time for Mr McCain to reject and repudiate both Mr Linder and torturers, no?
http://www.thelangreport.com/featured/carl-linder-funds-terrorist-group-...
The quote of the day
"It's not about Joe the Plumber. It's about Obama's disturbing response to Joe the Plumber."
By the typical repub
Dollars and Sense
It's amazing how people will act against what's good for them on the basis of a wish. Republican policies have made it tougher for our kids to afford a college education. Republican policies have made it a struggle for our parents to afford health care and housing in their retirement. I think the wealthy can take care of themselves for awhile as we work on getting our own house in order.
Want to hang onto that dream of being rich? That's what lottery tickets are for!
Joe plumber
I think this man can be used to our benefit.
here is how
McCain vs. Obama: The story on taxes
By Sandra Block, USA TODAY
In his acceptance speech at the 1984 Democratic convention, Walter Mondale promised to reduce the budget deficit by raising taxes. He later went on to lose every state but his home state of Minnesota and Washington, D.C.
It's not surprising, then, that despite a ballooning budget deficit and a recently enacted $700 billion financial bailout, John McCain and Barack Obama have pledged to lower taxes for millions of Americans.
CHART: Where you fit into candidates' tax proposals
McCain wants to extend the Bush administration's 2001 tax cuts, double the personal exemption taxpayers can claim, and lower corporate tax rates.
Obama wants to roll back some of the tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and increase corporate tax rates, while reducing taxes for low- and middle-income families.
This week, both candidates proposed temporary tax cuts designed to help Americans cope with the financial crisis, which has sharply reduced the value of their retirement savings. McCain wants to cut the capital gains rate in half, reduce the tax on withdrawals from retirement savings to 10%, and waive a rule that requires seniors to start taking withdrawals from tax-deferred retirement savings at age 70½. Obama would permit savers to take penalty-free hardship withdrawals of up to $10,000 from their 401(k) plans and individual retirement accounts in 2008 and 2009. Both candidates have proposed suspending taxes on unemployment benefits.
But whoever takes office on Jan. 20 will confront a brutal fiscal reality. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the nation's debt will swell to $2.3 trillion by 2018. The non-partisan Tax Policy Center estimates that Obama's tax package would add $3.5 trillion to the total, while McCain's proposals would add $5 trillion.
Douglas Holtz-Eakin, McCain's senior policy adviser, says McCain's tax cuts would create more jobs. "The centerpiece of Sen. McCain's approach to deficit reduction is to get the economy going," he says.
Brian Deese, Obama's deputy economic policy director, says Obama has "put together a package of pro-growth tax cuts aimed to help middle-class families who are struggling the most in the current economy."
McCain has pledged to eliminate earmarks and wasteful spending, while Obama has targeted tax loopholes. But neither candidate has offered a realistic plan to pay for their tax proposals, says Leonard Burman, director of the Tax Policy Center.
In addition, reducing domestic spending is a lot harder than it sounds, says Clint Stretch, managing principal for tax policy for Deloitte Tax. "Things like aid to higher education, air-traffic controllers, roads, bridges, are not easily cut," he says.
Burman says whoever wins the election will soon confront the "overwhelming realities" of the national debt. For now, though, "Both campaigns have made a political calculation that they want to talk about happy things.
There is more!
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2008-10-16-obama-mccain-tax-pr...
Joe the plumber said he supported McCain's health care plan
He said it to Kattie last night on the net.
MCCAIN'S DEER IN HEADLIGHTS MOMENT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EASpPlcVbdI
Biden: I don’t know Joe the Plumber
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j66LUroXUck